Indeed, it is in some peoples interests to emphasize the differences of other religions or sects rather than the similarities between them. What happened to the other created couples in the garden after the original Adam and Eve, and are they recognizable characters or prophets in the bible? Humans have been around for about 100,000 years. I think the author has overlooked the main context of the creation story and is simply trying to fit it into our understanding of a modern long geological age earth. If you want to resesrch you cannot exclude all other ancient texts. One thing that always puzzled me is how Cain got a wife? 3.19) . People like myself love and are fascinated by TNaKh and that is why we want to truly understand it using the best of modern science, literary analysis, history and of course archaeology. wanted to marry the younger of Abel's youngest triplet sisters and Between 20,000 and 120,000 years ago there was no Persian Gulf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_of_Hohle_Fels into the bible wont save the Christian faith, so let Cains wife descend from a preadamic tribe. Not only that zakar & neqebah have different meanings as isch & ischah, the preadamic way of life is also different from the adamic. However, my grandparents, from well respected English families, were married in 1917 in England and they were first cousins. We are discussing the phrase, not just a single word. They have the same body. When Im in Heaven Ill know the answer to all the things I dont know here. The known twins of the Bible include the following: Jacob and Esau: These two brothers are certainly the best-known set of twins in Scripture. This matches the descriptions of the land of Havilah. Your interpretation leads to the absurd idea that each male gave birth to only males first. This is exactly what your local weatherman does every day. Not as a spesific person, but as a lot as men and women in plural. Rabbi Isaac said: In respect to the soul (neshamah) that He provides, for [the wicked man] goes and clings to the power of the beasts. The beginning of Gen. 5 is just a summary from the preadamites (Verse 1-2) to Adam (verse 3) and so on. Once again the Focus is on the naming of the entire mankind, in the first two verses. Therefore, brothers must have married sisters at the beginning. According to this reasoning, Cain would have married his sisterone of Abel's twin sisters no less, according to the Genesis Rabbah. It is important that Cain married a sister for the biblical narrative to make sense. 1. Yet my eyes are drawn toward You see we are quite happy to believe that a rib was taken from Adam and made Eve. The worldwide flood destroyed everyone as confirmed in 2 Peter 2 and 3, so comparing the pre-flood civilizations to modern near east cultures that ignore distant settlements is in either disingenuous or ignorant. 100 September 7, 2018 at 8:56 AM Also, concerning who could possibly be those who would confront Cain to kill him, Humans lived on for centuries and centuries at that time so eventually there would be relatives and relations and shirt tail relatives who having moved to other regions might for some reason or other plot to kill Cain in the decades, centuries to come and not necessarily have to be another people or race outside of the one the Bible describes. When you look at those mentioned in the Bible, before the global deluge of Noahs day, they lived for hundreds of years. 7 Then Enos grew up, married, and begat Cainan. 3. It requires no mystery nor does it require incest. Perhaps Cain had just thrown together his sacrifice, or maybe deliberately offered the stunted and blighted portions of his crops to the Lord. I am disappointed that a scholar would use who when whom should have been used. Does it Matter That I Didn't Keep My Goals for Lent? Tobias is prompted by the angel to marry the widow and uses the heart and liver to drive off the wicked spirit and later uses the gall to restore Tobits sight. Cains blood line ever completely ended. Nod means land of wandering so Cain went to land of wandering that means he left Gods presence and was wandering about east of the garden. Consequently, although this is not stated, the only logical conclusion is that Cain married his sister and they had children together. Of course Adam was the first Biblically recorded agriculturalist, hes the first man. Remember that the law against close intermarriage was not given until the time of Mosese.g. Anyway its much more complicated than this, but these are the basics as to what my studies have found, while studying under the influence of the Holy Spirit. The Common Interpretation: Jealousy. Man didnt write the bible, God did, cain married one of his sisters, dont yall understand anything! Genesis 5:1-3 combines the name Adam (Gen. 2) with the creation language of Genesis 1. Yes they both were of multiple births. Therefore, technically ALL of Adams progeny was always outside the garden only Adam and Eve had ever been in the garden of Eden. Thus what say you now? Has anyone considered that when it is said that Adam sought for a help meet among the animals, he may have gone into animals. We have the same formula for each. The same verb in Gen. 2.7 is also used in Jer. Stop wasting your time and the time of others. Why didnt Abraham bargain with God when it came to Isaac being offered as a burnt offering like he did when it came to Sodom and Gomorrah? http://m.wol.jw.org/es/wol/dsync/r4/lp-s/r1/lp-e/2010649#h=0-1&selpar=0 The land of Eden had four major rivers converging into one which then flowed into the garden. So, why would they not accept that Adam was originally created from dust? interestingly, we must know that Adam and Eve was the very first creation of God. We dont blind ourselves to indisputable facts. The fundamentalists commenting here complain about theologically liberal materials and that people are not taking the bible literally and that they are denigrating it. By modern legal definition, Cain would have had to commit incest with one of his sisters in order to create offspring because he had no other choice. You should consult preferably neutral sources. a flood of tears over his face, and gathered together his children and his Regards. If Cain was told to leave the garden, this in some cultures can mean family. I agree with Lee, Read Answers in Genesis, book 1 and 2, facinating truly Bible based teaching!! First of all, there was no Garden of Eden, Adam and Eve, or Cain and Abel, so the question is mute. Mervyn, Waiting for a reply from Mary Leith. Also, Bible made no connection of the incidence with Adam and Eve. Yatsar refers to the molding and shaping of an object. Four highly acclaimed books, published in conjunction with the Smithsonian Institution: Aspects of Monotheism, Feminist Approaches to the Bible, The Rise of Ancient Israel and The Search for Jesus. One guy from the 1500s does not count. Personal names dont appear until the second chapter. God made man and woman. XIV, 1, 7-9, In Rabbi Rashis commentary on Genesis, Bk, 1, he says that Adam and Eve are the same people as those in Genesis one. 1, Ch. Candice Luceylives with her husband and daughters in (mostly) tranquil Salmon Arm, BC, Canada. Later however, Moses commanded close intermarriages between members of the same family to be prohibited (see Leviticus 18:6-17). Oh George my heart breaks for you, that your eye are so blinded to the truth that God breathed the words of the Bible for us to have to encourage us until He returns so we will not be in darkness. Adam and Eve were procreating long befor the fall(be fruitful and multiply) This is the same for each individual in the genealogy. Now Abel was a keeper of sheep, and Cain a worker of the ground. The idea that Cain married his sister flies in the face of modern practice plus the Mosaic law. MERVYN. But, besides the fact this is an easy question to answer, does it really matter whether or not we can answer it? The more insular a community is, the more prevalent certain diseases will be. Pouring their perpetual joy into their debut album, 2021's Rise Up, CAIN - made up of . To go outside these parameters is confessing you do not believe the account of creation as stated in Genesis. The Bible states emphatically that God is the same today, as yesterday, as forever in the future you wish to query. Thus, these are the same two humans in both chapters of Genesis. Btw: The 6000 years often referred to as the time since creation, is in fact the age of Adams bloodline. I have only seen one verse which uses even the word by itself in the context of knowledge. yes there are other people living on this earth. My hats off to all of you for this informative reading. The answer is in the Book of Jubilees the sixth most frequent manuscript discovered among the Dead Sea Scrolls. If something was important to people, they were capable of preserving a story and/or history even by oral tradition with word for word accuracy. I study TNaKh with enthusiasm and wonder as I engage the text not with fear and limitation.In my opinion to look at the text like a fundamentalist does actually denigrates the Bible and makes this wonderful and complex source seem simply stupid. day of creation. * 3 In the course of time Cain brought an offering to the LORD from the fruit of the ground, 4 while . The girls got their father drunk and had sex with him (Genesis 19:33-35). Domestication arose in the end of the 6. A figment of imagination. And Lamech murdering Cain? Hello Fatima, the bible did not states his wife came from the land of Nod The bible say that Cain went to the land of Nod and knew his wife and not that he marry his wife. The wife Cain took was one of Adams descendants. the reason Cain and Abel are written in there is because of the sin Cain committed, before the event of Cain killing his brother Abel, no man had ever taken a life. Report, October 22 2014 What is the relationship between Cain and Abel? Especially since Adam and Eve dont belong to the ultimative beginning of mankind. I was just answering your challenge. 10 Then were the days of Adam nine hundred and thirty years, and those of Hello Robert, I dont know if it has already been mentioned here, but Gen. 1:26/27 and 2:7 are two different events. The story of Cain and Abel shows us how pride, envy, jealousy, rage, and even vanity cause us to commit unthinkable acts that destroy Gods creation of love. It is meaningless and typical of people that think they are educated and now think they can question the Bible. Their creation in Gods image in Gen. 1.27 refers to the typical human Features like intelligence. - Some Bible scholars believe Cain and Abel were twins. There isnt an only passage in the entire bible that calls Adam and Eve the first humans. whether they were human or not is another question. Even the Big Bang theory was fathered by a preist. I agree that false teaching has lead to some murder and hate. http://www.visual-arts-cork.com/prehistoric/chauvet-cave-paintings.htm, Flute 40,000 And 30,000 Yrs Why do people who dont even believe that there was a literal person name Cain care about who he married? Its a pity you didnt read Genesis 1 v 26. The normal literal sense of scripture is always the best way to understand scripture unless the text in question otherwise demands . So, Cain married a HN woman. Adam and Eve arise in a completely different way than the humans of the 6. While Gen. 1:26/27-31 encounters from the origin and reproduction of the entire human race during the sixth day in its two sexes (hebr. Not because he 'slept' with her.. Earlier (comment 17) I referred to attempts to infer the original population size and how they overestimate the original size. The fact that there are similar (not exactly the same) stories/versions of Mans origins around the world among primitive tribes today and before Christian missionaries arrived to teach them the Jewish one, shows that man had one origin. If the Bible is silent on a topic it was either know by everyone and was insignificant to pass on or God deemed it unimportant to reveal to His prophets. Lastly, we find zakar and neqebah and ish and ishsha are used interchangeably for the individual mating pairs which entered the ark. All of mankind is mortal and doomed to eternal death without the atoning blood of Christ. I do not find on Amazon. Edit Genesis 5:4 says nothing about the timing of daughters, and sons would include Cain, Abel and Seth. @robert The Bible, at Job 26:7, speaks of God as hanging the earth upon nothing. Science says that the earth remains in its orbit in space primarily because of the interaction of gravity and centrifugal force. The majority of this period was filled with hunting. Its so difficult to answer this question,but lets be honest that the Bible was written by Gods own prophets whom were filled with the Holy Spirit to pass a short, brief but concise massage. If you look up Gen 4 youll see that Cain, as some of you have found out, after Abels death feared that other men would kill him. TDH, another thing. fear lest the enemy overcome thee. But if we look further we see through biblical evidence that Adam did not begat anymore sons or daughters until Seth. The garden was localized within the Land of Eden. If the latter is the case, Cain could have found a wife pretty much anywhere. HAS SHE NEVER READ THE hEBREW BIBLE? Now how old was cain and Able at the time of the incidence? In this early state of marriage, as indicated above, the female bride was not born from her mothers womb but, rather, was formed at some providential time from the side of her husband. This unique marital state once graced the world and, as proposed above, continued to the time of Abraham, after which it ended. Consistently, the calculations overestimated the size of the founding population. WITHOUT ANY SUPPORTING EVIDENCE HWATSOEVER, YET DEBUNKS ANYONE WHO BELIEVES THE SPARCE EVIDENCE AVAILABLE. days drew near. Its the Interface between the 6. and the 7. Fascinated by idea! Theres no ceramist manner when God forms a human. and during this wandering he knew his wife and not married. This has been directly tested for sheep, horses, etc. If we are incapable of understanding cultural and historical context, then its better to remain silent. I told you that in the flood account it is also used for animals (Genesis 7:2). 2 And again, she bore his brother Abel. See also (Genesis 6:17, 7:15, etc.). Mesopotamian creation myths, Josephs relationship with Egyptian temple practices and 3 tales of Ur, the birthplace of Abraham. Well Ethane, unfortunately Adam and Eve did sin, by being disobedient, the result being stated in Genesis 3:19 which is read or quoted at most Christian funerals when they say: for out of the dust you are and back to the dust you return,: or words to that effect..and as the apostle Paul said at Romans 5:12, though just one man (Adam), sin and death spread to all mankindwe have all inherited that imperfection But what you might not know is that plenty of famous stars have less famous twin siblings, too. And in the first year of the first week of the fifth jubilee, houses were built on the earth, and Cain built a city, and called its name after the name of his son Enoch.) Who specifically denied that Adam came from dust? They were tree gatherers at first and if this cursing of Cain meant that all things hanging from a tree is why Jesus had to be crucified, in order to save us from that curse on all tree fruit. This is backed up by other passages describing mans authority over the animal kingdom (Genesis 2:19-20, 4:2; Psalm 8:5-8). They had a rocky relationship that culminated in a heated quarrel, which ended with Cain The Torah 's description of their life is brief and cryptic murdering his younger brother. To rule does not mean to hunt. It means to have dominion. Agriculture even began before Adam and Eve, 10,000 ago. Mervyn. Utterly ridiculous There were no Jews until Judah was born. It was not until Adam and Eve freely chose to rebel against God, that pain and suffering entered into the world, he said. It refers to physical life (Job 27:3; Ezekiel 37:4-9; Revelation 11:9-11). The two Genesis creation stories are simply tribal creation myths. Gen. 2:7 formed the man OF dust (aphar) from (min) the ground (adamah). Genesis 5:4 After he begot Seth, the days of Adam were eight hundred years; and he had sons and daughters. Genesis tells us that Adam and Eve had other sons and daughters besides Cain, Abel and Seth. The pre-flood earth atmosphere shielded better against cosmic radiation permitting less genetic erosion and much longer lives. I live from breath to breath The world of the Bible is knowable. If the entire human race came from an original pair then this was unavoidable, according to Don Stewart. Yes, I do believe Adam and Eve had more children. All answers are REVIEWED and MODERATED. Because they were very sinful and out of Gods regulations. Aside from those details, I see no harm in wondering whom Cain married. The name Nod was not necessarily used by Cain and his contemporaries, but may simply have been the name of the area as known to the original readers of ha Torah. 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