I think he was distracted because the turmoil had taken such a toll on Israel, and the famine too, that he was worried about the economy, rebuilding cities and fortifications, and his alliances with Hiram and others. He made huge errors in judgment, both personally and in a larger sense. And as the one righteous person in the whole nation, he could have cried out, God would have heard, and God would have saved. Because of their peace treaty and their oath with the Gibeonites, which included these people. Saul, Israel's first king thought he knew better than God. That is not what it says here. Then they were able to pick up the pieces of their lives and move forward by the strength that God gave them to overcome and to grow, and to put on the mindthe characterof Christ. The Gibeonites presented themselves to the invading Israelites, not as nearby neighbors, but as distant foreigners who lived in a far-off land. The Israelites had promised not to It is easy to read this story blithely, and to think that David righted some longstanding wrongs that had happened, and then God happily sent rain to the parched land of Israel. In their poverty and slavery the bowed but ever proud Gibeonites refused financial and other forms of compensation for the attempted genocide on their tribe. Had him over to the palace a few times." And David was told what Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, the concubine of Saul, had done. Verse 5 does not say that the guilt of a person extends to his great-great grandchildren. They had a more bloody and violent systemwhich often led to blood feuds that may not ever end until a whole family or generation was gone. Today, I want to visit one of King David's lesser-known black marks, and draw some lessons from it at the end. There is nothing to give you any indication that God was involved in anything except the faminetrying to teach David a lesson. Turn to Exodus 20 and see that right in the Ten Commandments it sounds like it could mean that sin does travel down the family tree. 0 responses King David was compelled to hand over his own people to the power of Israel's ongoing enemies. 2 Samuel 21:2 At this, David summoned the Gibeonites and spoke to them. Verse 1 did say that it was "Saul and his bloodthirsty house" who had massacred the Gibeonites. * 1 Samuel 18:12 KJV And Saul was afraid of David, because the LORD was with him, and was departed from Saul. * 1 Samuel 18:15 KJV Wherefore when S A God of faithfulness and without iniquity, just and upright is he. WebDavid serves Saul with music on his harp Nov 24, 1025. He was tired, and wanted to get it out of the way. What Saul did was commit another presumptuous sin. And, that was that. David was annonted by Sammuel Apr 10, 1035. The Israelites had been dealing with the Gibeonites, who were Hivitesand as it says here, they were a part of the Amorite peoplesince the first days in the land under Joshua. David did not make any counter demands. However, if he did not lie in wait, but God delivered him into his hand, then I will appoint for you a place where he may flee.". They made their dust-covered clothes to look worn and ragged as if they had been on the road for many days, even months. There were not very many of them left. September 01 2013 II Samuel 21:7 But the king spared Mephibosheth the son of Jonathan, the son of Saul, because of the LORD's oath that was between them, between David and Jonathan the son of Saul. It is not genetic. God punished Adam and Eve for their sin. When God called Saul to be king, Israel was on the verge of collapse. During the time of the judges, the Israelites had repeatedly turned away, lea And the king said, "I will give them.". 21:1-11 ). If you read Psalm 51 it is very clear that he understood his own makeup. But, you would think that after two years you would get the idea that this was not breaking. He did not perform any miracle, or any other thing to show that He was happy with the way that things turned out. We have a very simple biblical principle here: God is just. He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully. The higher the vote, the further up an answer is. Notice the timing and the manner of the execution. What I am trying to show you by going through these different places is that there is plenty of law that King David could have looked back on. His anger at the And the LORD answered, "It is because of Saul and his bloodthirsty house, because he killed the Gibeonites." King Saul (and his house?) He received good marks in Scripture. (4:10). We do not know how long before II Samuel 21 this incident happened. The Lord told them they had made a commitment to these people and they had to stand by it. I think that this was a test from God, and David failed spectacularly, except in keeping his promise to Jonathan. There are so many things I have got to do.". Asked August 31 2013 God required atonement to be made. Who was the father of Mephibosheth? So they thought, "Hmm. It does not require at all times that a person guilty of bloodshed die. It causes a problem in the way that the next generation is formed. What do we do in a time of spiritual famine? If we were reading this quickly, and not really thinking about it, and not understanding God's own character, we might think that this says that God allows the guilt of sin to pass down three or four generations. WebWe will attack Gibeon, because they have made peace with Joshua and the Israelites." And after that God heeded the prayer for the land. This is what we have to learnunderstanding the distinction between guilt for sin, and the lingering effects of sin. Psalm 34:4-10 I sought the LORD, and He heard me, and delivered me from all my fears. Then they asked for a king, and God gave them Saul son of Kish, a man of the tribe of Benjamin, for forty years. The world's arsenal is growing daily in material strength and sophisticated intimidation. It is after Absalom's rebellion. Then, I am sure, he started to think about other things that were happening, and he started to make some reforms in himself. The midrash states that when Saul learned of this, he was angry with his daughter and demanded of her: Why did you deceive me and let my enemy escape? Share So, he kept his own covenant, but he did not go any further to figure out from God's law to know what should be done in this situation. Luke 21:36 "Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.". They made their dust-covered clothes to look worn and ragged as if they had been on the road for many days, even months. These curses are things like diseases that might affect genetics, and they came as the result of sin. Numbers 35:34 "Therefore do not defile the land which you inhabit, in the midst of which I dwell; for I the LORD dwell among the children of Israel.'". This is a bit unusual. Were they participants in killing the Gibeonites? The Jewish Encyclopedia asserts that one group of rabbis felt that Saul's punishment at God's hands is a sign of his weak moral character whose only virtue was being tall and handsome. . How many rebellions were there? THE STORY OF JOSEPH - Ezekiel 18:19-20 indicates that guilt for sin is not transferable, but the consequences can often touch several generations. How many died in sicknesses? He was not thinking spiritually. And David sought the face of the Lord. Does the devil have power to make us sick? It must have been a satisfactory solution from Gods point of view, because he sent the rain on the land after the measures had been taken. He did this "in his zeal for. Lets read about David avenging the Gibeonites in 2 Samuel 21:1-14: 1 Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year. If you look at a map in the back of your Bible which has something to do with the conquest of Israel, you will see that Gilgal is right over the Jordan River, just on the eastern side of the land. Oh, fear the LORD, you His saints! He asked me, "How does this incident square with what God says in Ezekiel 18:19-20?". It is not the sin of Adam and Eve; it is their own sin. No one killed king David. He died of old age, at the age of three score and ten (70 years). His son Solomon succeeded him. You might be thinking of It is in II Samuel 21. And he gathered an army and attacked the Amalekites, and delivered Israel from the hands of those who plundered them. Go coach! Perhaps if I go and kill all the Gibeonites like Joshua was supposed to do, maybe God will let me back into the chair.". This is certainly not the David of Psalm 34, where he wrote. Things were going wrong. Ezekiel 18:19-20 indicates that guilt for sin is not transferable, but the consequences can often touch several generations. SERIES INTRODUCTION So the famine continued for another half a year. 1. However, we have a great deal of trouble identifying with or understanding pure, innocent and perfect Galahad. BATTLE AGAINST ENVY AND JEALOUSY But, they like the dark one because he is moody, and doing things not for quite the right reasons. There is more space given to David's flaws than anyone else in the whole Bible. WebA three years' famine in the days of David was attributed to God's anger at the unexpiated crime of Saul in slaying the Gibeonites. I think he was very low. Joshua realized he had been deceived, but he kept the letter of his covenant with the Gibeonites to let them live; however, he cursed and enslaved them as woodcutters and water-carriers. Saul later pursued the Gibeonites and sought to kill them off in his zeal for the children of Israel and Judah. He gets kicked down the societal ladder for his sin, and it takes three or four generations for the family to recover. Leviticus 26:18-20 And after all this, if you do not obey Me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins. He does not live long past the end of II Samuel. To re-establish peace between the two tribes, David fulfills the Gibeonites request to sacrifice two heirs of Israels throne, Sauls sons and grandsons. Another group, however, argues that as God's anointed king, Joshua 9:14-16 Then the men of Israel took some of their provisions; but they did not ask counsel of the LORD. Now, we move forward, not very long in time, to Joshua 9. How long was the average lifespan at the time? This was history now. He says to watchbe aware, be awake, be vigilant; know what your spiritual state is. Evidently, this is what Saul and most of his family was like, except Jonathan. ", So David went out and said, "There are some things that have needed to be done. It cut us off from God. There are things like destruction for their sin, and the family takes that long to recover from that destruction. He got a little weird, throwing spears at David (and Jonathan too, once). You are getting later and later in David's life here. I Samuel 14:52 Now there was fierce war with the Philistines all the days of Saul. Share Israel plagued by allowing the deception It comes as a snare, Christ says, on everybody. So they answered Joshua and said, "Because your servants were clearly told that the LORD your God commanded His servant Moses to give you all the land, and to destroy all the inhabitants of the land from before you.". This is like offering them reparations for what Saul had done, and they replied that it was not good enough. And King David rolled over and let this happen. And after that God heeded the prayer for the land. How many died in bar-fights? . Why is it just now that you are waking up to this? The "Great Debate" between Nixon and Kennedy had not occurred yet. He could have done several things differently, perhaps giving the Gibeonites their freedom as a way to repay them. He says that He visits the iniquity upon them. He is beyond us; it does not make any sense. They did not ask, "God, what should we do to these people, the Gibeonites? And that day Joshua made them woodcutters and water carriers for the congregation and for the altar of the LORD, in the place which He would choose, even to this day. The famine was a punishment for Sauls violation of the covenant, made with the Gibeonites back during the days of Joshua. It certainly happened because it says there in verses 1 and 2 that Saul killed a lot of Gibeonites at some point in his reign. Christ says, Luke 21:34-35 "But take heed to yourselves, lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life, and that Day come on you unexpectedly. I also want you to see how warlike Saul was. These conflicting views on Saul would continue long past the biblical era and into modern times. King David came at it from a position of weakness, not of one who knew God's law and could answer these people from spiritual strength. We don't hear much of the Gibeonites again until the reign of King Saul. Then, they went after Jericho, and it fell. 1 Then there was a famine in the days of David three years, year after year; and David enquired of the LORD. Seven of Sauls descendants were hanged as a result. That would be such a carnal thing to dojust let the Gibeonites kill seven of Saul's kids who could claim the Israelite throne and get them out of the way. In reading the Psalms, on the other hand, we get an idea of just how grateful he was for God's forgiveness and grace, because I believe he was aware of just what a rotten individual he really was. Then Gibeon was a mile or two more to the north-northwest. From the time of Joshua, throughout the long period of the Judges, the very presence of these deceitful people had not only been a thorn in the side of the Israelis; their position in the land was a dividing wedge that separated southern Judah from the rest of the Kingdom. He just let the natural cycles take their course. Instead of warfare and bloodshed, their weapons were guile and deceit. Rizpah, Lord Alfred Tennyson in 1878. Then they answered the king, "As for the man who consumed us and plotted against us, that we should be destroyed from remaining in any of the territories of Israel, "let seven men of his descendants be delivered to us, and we will hang them before the LORD in Gibeah of Saul, whom the LORD chose." I don't know a great deal about this particular segment of those biblical people called the Hittites. I think he was looking at Adonijah and Solomon, and seeing the positioning for the throne, and he just wanted to throw up his handsflee like some bird (Psalm 139). WebWhen God called Saul to be king, Israel was on the verge of collapse. WebSaul kills the gentile Gibeonites (2 Sam 21) & banishes mediums in preparation for Tabernacle being moved from Nob to Gibeon. And these men, they need to be buried. Has the book of Amos been fulfilled or is it a reference to end times? The Gibeonites achieved their short term goal - survival; but they paid a terribly long term price for it - virtual slavery! Spiritual virtues and qualities are largely unseen yet are more real and potent in lasting effects than the most formidable nuclear pile. And Samuel says, "See? "There was a famine in the days of King David for three years, year after year. God only let the rain cycle start again. WebTranslation Details for 2 Samuel 21:1 Then there was a famine in the days of David three years, year after year; and David enquired of the LORD. He had to plead to God for clearing and forgiveness, for cleaning up, because he knew it was not in himself to do that. WebThe biblical writer confirms this charge by stating that Saul tried to annihilate [ nkah, to inflict a dead blow] them (2 Sam. It did not come the next week, or the next month, or the month after that, all through the summer and into the fall holy days. How many wars were fought? There is a great deal more than what meets the eye. Report, August 29 2022 I am just going to start with the backdrop to the incident. If you read 2Samuel 21 carefully, it seems possible that Saul and his house may have been trying to get the Gibeonites territory. And we are supposed to be ready. He understood it. Let me ask God about this. WebThe designation Nethinim is derived from the Hebrew verb natan ("to give over"), which can mean devoting someone to cultic service. DESTRUCTION AND CORRUPTION He had to sit there and judge people with all the little things they constantly brought up to him that seemed to need his decision on. This famine has been going on for three years, year after year. Scripture has said this explicitly. 17 Then the children of Israel journeyed and came to their cities on the third day. But it appears at least 40, maybe 50 years in the past. 12 Saul said, Listen now, son of Ahitub.. By this time, Moses had died and was buried. They handed their enemies hard, stale, moldy bread and told them it had been freshly baked when they left home. This angered God and was only amended years later after sacrificing seven of Sauls sons to the Gibeonites by hanging them before Jehovah at Sauls hometown, Gibeah. After that, Gibeonites were no longer mentioned though there are some writers who believed that they were among the Nethinim, the ones selected to serve the temple. Also, the Lord pronounced, It is a result of the massacre by Saul and welcome classification because Saul indeed destroyed the Gibeonites in the Bible. God told Joshua to get rid of all these foreigners in the land. One is God's judgment upon the actual person for the actual sin; the other is God's punishment that He has automatically put into the law that allows the effects to last for a few generations. Now the Gibeonites were not of the children of Israel, but of the remnant of the Amorites; the children of Israel had sworn protection to them, but Saul had sought to kill them in his zeal for the children of Israel and Judah. There is another thing that needs to be thrown out there as a possible scenario, and this would have been the very worst and lowest that David could have sunk to. It is very clear, and very simplejust two little verses. Therefore, this curse goes down until the gene pool is able to kick it outthree or four generations. So they fell, all seven together, and were put to death in the days of harvest, in the first days, in the beginning of barley harvest. He keeps his word even to his own disadvantage and does not change it [for his own benefit] (Psalm 15:1, 4; AMP). Forty years, at least, has passed, and had they been involved in it back when Saul was still kinglet us say they were 18 to 20 years oldthese men involved in this massacre, should they still be alive, might be 60, 65, or even 70 years old. About two years ago, Barry Watson, our lone member in Namibia, wrote me an email message in which this incident was at the heart of it. The second is at the end of verse 2, that "Saul had sought to kill them in his zeal for Israel and Judah." All answers are REVIEWED and MODERATED. There was a covenant with those people that not only Joshua and the people honored, but also God Himself honored as well. II Samuel 21:1-2 Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year; and David inquired of the LORD. Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year; and David inquired of the LORD. Summary:2 Samuel Chapter 212 Samuel 21 Avenging the Gibeonites A. David avenges the Gibeonites. It seems that modern Westerners want their heroes flawed. Completely ignoring God's explicit command to spare the Gibeonites, Saul decreed it was time to remove them completely by exterminating them. They did what is recalled in verses 3 through 6 above. This indicates that God was not pleased, whatsoever, with how this situation was resolved by David. "Now therefore, you are cursed, and none of you shall be freed from being slaveswoodcutters and water carriers for the house of my God." Saul and the Pharisees persecuted and killed the Christians, The sons of King Saul were killed as a result of this attempted genocide, The non-Christian inhabitants of Jerusalem were destroyed in AD70 Gods judgment on them for murdering his son and doubtless, the early Christians. To all appearances, it seems that they got away with it. A good answer provides new insight and perspective. However, there was not. There should have been payment for it. Instead, they told a story that either ignored the truth completely or, at least, shaded the truth in such a way that it was full of guile and deceit. II Samuel 21:14 So they performed all that the king commanded. There was a great deal of turmoil in Israel leading up to this time. Most people living in modern, Western culture better identify with flawed heroes, rather than perfect heroes. Saul, after having disqualified himself from being king, sought to ingratiate himself with God by killing Canaanites, including an unrecorded massacre of Gibeonites. He was endangering the whole army by being out there, an old man trying to fight like a young man. He decided to let the Gibeonites dictate everything. This meant the latter harvest has passed, and maybe another month or so went by. And it very seriously affected his judgment in this matter. Perhaps those first two, Armoni, and Mephibosheth were old enough to have participated in the event. What did David do to end the famine caused by Saul breaking a treaty with the Gibeonites? Leviticus 26:3-4 If you walk in My statutes and keep My commandments, and perform them, then I will give you rain in its season, the land shall yield its produce, and the trees of the field shall yield their fruit. In the economy of God's providence, however, such tiny events often matter much. It does not seem to me that during this time of the three years of famine David was emulating the attitude that he wrote about in Psalm 34. Finally, after six or seven months, the rains came in their natural cycle. Deceit and delusion are powerful spiritual weapons of destruction but they pale in potency compared to the creative and edifying Word of God come alive by faith in believers' hearts! Now, turn to the episode of King David, which we introduced. Certainly, after three years you would. They fell for it hook, line, and sinker, and they were stuck. You had to go up quite a bit. So he said, "Whatever you say, I will do for you." That is that he could have gone along with the Gibeonite's demands in order to get rid of seven possible contenders for his throne. Your threshing shall last till the time of vintage, and the vintage shall last till the time of sowing; you shall eat your bread to the full, and dwell in your land safely. So David asked the Lord for help, and the Lord answered, Saul and his family are guilty of murder, because he had the Gibeonites killed. Joshua did try to make lemonade out of his lemons. WebThe Gibeonites Hang Saul's Descendants 21 While David was king, there were three years in a row when the nation of Israel could not grow enough food. ( v.1 ) So God sent a famine to punish a kingdom for something that a former king supposedly did. For the Gibeonites, their wily guile and deception gained them survival and nothing more. God punished the whole nation for breaking the covenant. Exodus 21:23-25 But if any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe. And those two are questionable. You cannot tell. This does not make any sense. Should the explanation in Genesis on how God created plants before the sun affect the understanding of creation? Moreover, the Gibeonites who survived remembered, and they wanted blood when they were asked. In 2 Samuel 21:1-14, we see that Saul committed an awful crime, and this caused famine in Israel. I do not think that King David thought through the implications of this matter very well. In addition, his own soldiers had to tell him, "David, you just don't have it anymore. They were probably innocent of this particular crime. So, he spared Agag, and he spared a lot of the good stuff. Good question. 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