Thursday Vanguard 9.5D: Toe box is a bit tapered for my liking, but overall fit is so-so. So do only the toes get more room or is the hole shoe more roomier? But you might want to chat with Carmina first to double-check. Non-sense. Alden Barrie: I can be comfortable in Bluchers in 8.5E. There are many brands in that segment, such as Joeworks or October Tenth, that I think might appeal to a fair number of PS readers. As of late, I found that the cost differential between Crockett & Jones and Carmina has become more significant. men's size 6D with my thickest socks; my dream would be a size 5.5 in this last: 6D Meermin Hiro Derby: 4.5: UK: . Still fine for the price point, as this piece suggests, but the quality control is miserable. Yeah, Luca Rubinacci apparently also has a cooperation with them, which frankly I dont understand, Just for info, Velasca in Italy does have a selection of shoes that are Goodyear welted:https://it.velasca.com/collections/francesine-goodyear Hello Simon, it would be interesting to have an additional piece about brands a tier above those, e.g. Id highly recommend it for more detail all of these brands, particularly on the technical side. Thick, high quality leather, but without the supple stretchiness that C&Js and Westons uppers both have. Thanks, Simon, Ive read those already. I have found myself not liking the current 2021+ year make of the 2030 in 8.5 The changes have kind of fudged the instep for me right at the tongue seam. Trickers 4444: A perfect fit in 8.5 with medium socks in Logger boots. I cant comment as to what anything is like higher up the scale but they are both the best looking and most comfortable shoes I own (more than my hiking boots or running shoes). However, they are less fashionable than Carmina shoes because of the quality of their finishing. Alden Van: 10D - Good fit. 7.5UK fits well with thicker socks. Also Barkers at the 1880 price point are made in the UK. Viberg 2040 8.5: No variable widths for this last. Snug in thick socks. Theres so many men who more or less only buy bespoke tailoring, and who can spend enormous amount of money on watches etc. The heel is the most notably roomier and the length actually seems to be the same. The Alden cordovan color of the shoe is achieved by a plastic pellicule which shaves rather quickly to reveal a light brown leather underneath. Snug in the forefoot and toebox but not tight. Carmina Rain: UK 11 (best fitting Carmina last for me) Carmina Inca: UK 11 (too tight across instep) Carmina Forest: UK 11.5 (snug instep) Carmina Simpson: my feet are too wide for this last. After that in the US you get down into much cheaper brands, like John Doe which are made in Mexico. Hmm, thanks for highlighting that Francois. Its just not possible.. Its a good time to be a consumer in this area.. Their last is made for the Japanese feet, which are flatter in general with a smaller heel. HOK 8.5: Bad fit. There is a great day out to be had (or was) visiting the factory shops of the main makers in and around Northampton. Jason: Thats a real shame. Everything I have is at the level of Crockett & Jones Handgrade or above, and most are Edward Green. While I like the imperial range, I disagree that Cheaney are at a similar level to C&J; even to my untrained eye the upper leather doesnt seem comparable (scuffs more easily) and is thinner. Nobody wants a bad fitting pair of strides but at least they wont cause you physical pain. The shoe soles of the Carminas are truly some of the best in the market today. The last of their chukka didnt fit me, but the suede felt surprisingly good for the price. The last is generally nicer, finer finishing elements are nicer, fewer corners are cut in certain areas, etc. I have had great buys from Tricker none were country shoes, but one pair had channeled soles, which even at full price would have been a bargain. The English brands at this price level are Loake (1880 range, above) and Barker, both of whom make their uppers in Asia to cut down on costs. Ive purchased a few Grenson pieces this year. Im surprised not to see JFitzpatrick in the Spain list. They are both leather lined with a full leather insole and both have a Goodyear welted single leather sole. Sometimes they run big and sometimes they run small. They both have a very knowledgeable blog dedicated to shoes. The upper leather is stiff and prone to hard creases, but also a little thinner than other brands on this list which helps with comfort. We start at the top end of that market, and then gradually work our way down. You must log in or register to reply here. I shouldn't have slept on it), Monitaly Shawl Field Jacket - Black Herringbone 38, The unofficial NMWA Buy/Sell Thread (a.k.a. I might have very sensible feet but I wouldnt buy more mainline C&J. Ive always found the customer service at EG shocking. The choice of quality leather materials makes Meermin shoes very versatile and fitting for many wardrobes. Where would you fit in Carlos Santos? Good engineer last and terrible service boot, there's a reason they never went production on em. I have, however, experienced considerably worse service at some of the establishments of allegedly higher grade companies, whose products I could easily afford, but whose customer service proved to be a very effective deterrent. Im thinking of trying something different and the George Cleverley Ready to Wear line has a whole cut I particularly like the look of. Foster & Son get this so much better with their RTW. Besides, one isnt going to do something athletic in dress shoes so a relatively poor fit is not noticed most of the time. These should fit TTS for people with higher arches but this last is definitely not for me. 3. This separates footwear from most of fashion and it feels good to support the companies that work towards this. They didn't gave Detroit EEE in stock so I couldn't try it. I have to disagree. Closed lacing a few mm shy of coming together on day one. Free shipping for many products! Meermin shoes come with rubber shoe soles that are hardworn and really sturdy. I wear the same size in rain shell as in xim unlined. I wear a US10/UK9 and opted for a UK9, on Pepe's recommendation, and the fit is spot on. Do you think there is a difference in comfort? Asics GT2000: 11 - Perfect fit. Or about 9.5D right foot and 9.4D left foot. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Above all of these. Many thanks, Common Projects Achilles and Bball: 43 are some of my best fitting shoes, especially the Bballs that have a little more toe room. Like I said, it wont work for everyone, but might be an option if on a budget. Sendra is a factory that makes for a lot of cheaper start-ups, because theyre so flexible and have no minimums. It was a hard break in, mostly just the arch. Certainly if I looked at them close up I could tell, and I could also tell if I was wearing them. Regarding AE, theres certainly been a change since their most recent acquisition in 2017. DESCRIPTION VIEW MODELS Forest is Carmina's most archetypal and early last. Rafal hails from Poland and is a shoemaker who creates each pair of shoes by himself. Wolverine 1000 mile 9D: Gusseted tongue made the break in a little hard at first, overall a bit narrow and snug in the waist, but a very comfortable fit when broken in. Viberg 2030E 8.5: Good to great fit, but depends on the year and the run. Trickers appears to have a wider breadth to me, especially in country shoes and boots in lots of leathers and colours. Being cheaper is an objective description of price. 9.5D heel to ball, just a smidge under 9.5D on heel to toe. The quality of the leather on my particular pair isnt as good as the Loake 1880 (or any of the other brands) but overall these are a well constructed pair of shoes. I havent covered Allen Edmonds in the past both because I havent had much experience of them, and because they were below the quality level we normally cover on PS hence their inclusion in this article, which was intended to round-up lots of cheaper makers. Ive only been reading PS for a few months, and I immediately got hooked to the point that I spend my free time reading past articles in order to catch up. Ive just received an email from Herring Shoes announcing that Church Shoes Ltd have decided to increase their prices to reposition their brand at a higher price point. I have had a very different experience with EG service. These shoes are classily elegant shoes that elevate the fashion style of the shoe wearer. Its a smidge roomy, but I don't believe going an extra half down would have worked and I prefer boots to be worn with boot socks. Ostmo Moe 43.5: Tried these on and this was a bang on size. Overall - and this all has to be generalisation - with English shoes you get a solid make and good quality control. Looking forward to this. Indeed, stylistically they are even quite close. However, a really bright or unsual patina has never really been my style, and is becoming even less so. They had also banned any online store to ship them out to Canada. does not really mean quality will be consistent. I would also recommend Thomas George Collection (based in Melbourne) and Crownhill Shoes (Spain), two quality brands who sit at the same price range of Morjas/Velasca and they do great bang for the bucket GW Shoes. If I have fit issues, it is usually due to rubbing on superolateral aspect of the right 5th toe. Although Meermins have great shoe soles, the truth is that Carminas are just much better.MEERMIN SHOE SOLES. Topics include a wide range of brands from Crockett & Jones to Guidi. While a bespoke suit might of course feel a bit better in how it fits and how you can move, it isnt really more comfortable and better for the health of your body compared to a midrange full canvas suit, in the same way as bespoke shoes. Viberg 2030E 9: Specifically for the Halketts which have a trimmed waist and slight pattern changes these are okay in a half size up with boot socks. However without the insert there's too much volume so now I'm shopping for a 3/4 insert to toss in them. Why spend 400 retail when you can get a great pair of shoes for half that? Most shoes that say theyre made in the Almansa area of Spain are made by Sendra.. However, it shows. Note: I have pretty weird feet, slim waist, slim heels, slightly high instep, and low volume. Do you think that this pair are too smart: https://www.afinepairofshoes.co.uk/products/berwick-1707-penny-loafer-9628-dark-brown-suede?variant=19309209288766&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5ZCblaOs6gIVdBPTCh32aAttEAEYASABEgKcGvD_BwE, Would this pair be better suited: https://www.carminashoemaker.com/penny-loafers-brown-suede-80113. Nice idea for a thread, but does anyone have experience with carmina's wide width options? Thanks for an informative post. **The older 2040s are tighter, because of the older style of heel pad, if you find it too tight I recommend considering swapping out the heel pads. Jespers site is shoegazing.com. Its also (if im not mistaken) the only brand that advertises the fact that they use full-grain leather from reputable tanneries on all their shoes (admittedly, based on the price, they probably use the cheaper cuts of leather, but from those tanneries nonetheless). I have to say that influencers, like Andreas Weinas, who keep plugging those kinds of brands using superlative language bear some of the responsibility for misleading people. Throughout this commentary from Jesper, its worth keeping in mind that some of the points are objective, some more subjective. Is it enough to justify the extra 75 quid per pair? My C&J 337 is a bit loose in 10UK but too tight in 9.5UK; my Carmina Simpson Oxford is comfortably snug in 10UK (which is how I like my shoes to fit.) But whats my experience, and I know for many others as well who have good bespoke shoes, is that the experience of wearing them, with the snug comfortable fit, excellent arch support etc, widely triumph wearing RTW/MTO Goodyear welted shoes. Its particularly difficult with Oxfords, a Meermin Linea Maestra in a narrow width is the only pair I have that Id say fits spot on, all others are uncomfortable if I need to walk for a decent distance. Look our for slightly used or shop worn EG, Lobb and St. Crispins on ebay. or to put it another more childish way, you started it! Steve. RUI 9: Great fit as I recall from trying in a store over a year ago. Thus, not likely to be much different from your C&J in terms of make, but the last and the leather may differ. Did you ever talk to them about what is the rationale behind this strategy? Seeing an article like this is refreshing, its nice to see PS being more inclusive by discussing products which are more budget friendly. I own several of the shoes mentioned in this article (Meermin, Allen Edmonds, Loake 1880, Carmina) and if theres one thing I learned, it is that: you cant buy Gold for the price of Copper. HIRO 9: Terrible fit. Overall, Meermin shoes are great shoes, but they appear to be poorly finished when compared to Carminas. It depends what else you have of course, but a dark brown or slimmer overall look is more likely to be more useful,.and certainly better for suits. I have not found any better service than that provided by the C&J shops in Jermyn Street (and actually at the factory shop on the one occasion I managed to visit). You talk a lot about nicer shoes on PS and how they are much nicer. Yes they do take a while to break in, but once they were, they ended up being just as comfortable as all my other GYW shoes. Great Stone Alexander 8.5D: Mostly great fit but too much heel slippage. Rock Your Socks- show your sock, shoe & pant combos, *DROP 3/1* NWT $240 Ralph Lauren Purple Label Italian Made Navy Linen & Mulberry Silk Twill Neck Tie, * DROP 3/1 * NWT $225 Ralph Lauren Purple Label Italian Made Square Knit Solid Black Silk Neck Tie, R.M.Williams Comfort Craftsman Tobacco Suede UK 8.5 H. OGIO Golf Travel Bags The Royal Experience! Career and job listings in fashion, mens clothing, Reviews of Classifieds and classifieds sellers, No Man Walks Alone - Official Affiliate Thread (a.k.a. Viberg 110: Last is shorter than other service boot lasts. With TLB, you could choose a more versatile dark-brown calf, or perhaps brown suede but with leather soles. Barrie 9.5D: Bad fit. As for Northampton shoes they are still great value if you buy in the sale or go to the factory shops. I feel much less tired in my feet after a long day, and if one have a bit problematic feet it will be an even bigger difference.. Nice article , but why the article call these cheap shoes? They used to offer calf leather and Goodyear welting at incredible prices though the soles would wear quickly and their shops recommended Topy. G&G is easy. I did have a little heel slip in the beginning that went away. Total:1,176 (members:154, guests:1,022), Preorders, Group Made-to-order, trunk shows, and o. In the long run you will always regret buying a pair that ticks all the boxes, but doesnt have a good fit. It requires more knowledge to be able to see the difference between welted shoes at different stages of the quality segment, in general. The quality Crockett & Jones is now significantly better than Trickers, both sole and uppers. But I am not a US citizen, at least no chauvinism involved. 4 3 3 comments Best Add a Comment hjordan28141 2 yr. ago I wear chup socks with all of my shoes and boots these days, but for some of these I wore Darn Tough crew light or Darn Tough cushioned boot socks. It takes days to sift through the carmina thread to even know relatively what size to buy. Loake Jockey last (G-Fit): 7UK fits but a bit roomy on chelsea boots. Trickers 4497s: 8.5 is a little too short, while 9 feels too big in most pairs. Loake make some shoes in India, 1880 range is made in UK. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. They make shell cordovan shoes and boots for under $450 (sometimes as cheap as $350 ), which is basically unheard of in 2019. Carmina Rain Oxford - 9.5 UK. I think the short answer is that yes, it is expensive to add an extra width across all shoes. Very comfortable throughout the midfoot. Cobbler Union (above) is a newer brand, and more similar to TLB or Carmina, while Spier & MacKay is a clothing brand with a line of shoes at 220 which is decent for the price. Of course manufacturing anything is significantly cheaper in Spain than the UK so the Spanish manufacturers are off to a good start in that regard with labour costs. - 8 (very voluminous, though) Carmina- Robert- 8 Carmina- Rain- 8 Carmina- Forest- 8 Carmina- Soller-8 . I returned this pair. Ive purchased two pairs over the past 10 months from brands in this article. Also, the chunky sole and derby construction arent that suited to suits. Initially uncomfortably tight across the vamp in shell and with moderate heal slip. Even with a tongue pad, facings fully come together throughout the instep. Customers get a lot of value from buying Carmina shoes because these fashionable shoes are really sturdy, durable, and long-lasting in the long run. F. E. F. Extra-wide. Think Ill grab a pair of black calf Trickers first, then see how I go. Start-up brands are often good on marketing, on styling and photography. Similar articles on suits, jackets, shirts etc are desperately needed. The 5th toe of my right foot has always been mildly adducted and overlapping the 4th toe. In my experience, AE is not second to the former neither in leather quality nor make, and features more comfortable footbeds (especially vs Carmina), only it is not as sleek. You might also care more with a dress oxford than a casual loafer. They are extremely comfortable and very good value in my opinion. 5. Anyone that gets these Carmina shoes for their wardrobe would be getting some of the best style statements of their lives. Had the same experience with a pair of Oxfords from them and asked their sales rep about it. Loake is not anywhere near. But have you ever disclosed your so called financial situation regarding your reviews you dont pay full price if any price for all these garments you have made for yourself, correct? Barrie: 10D (I might be able to pull 9.5 with thin socks), 9.5 E, Tuesday split toe boots (no last name): 9.5, Borneo: 42 EU (snug fit with plenty room for toe to wiggle with medium socks), Kujang: 42.5 EU (snug fit with medium socks), 325: 9.5 UK (had to re-purchase just to recall my size), 365: 9 UK (snug with medium socks, would probably be clown looking if I went 9.5, but who knows), Military: 44 EU (had to throw thick socks for this, but no way I could pull 43, the weirdest fitting last Ive ever had), 4497: 9.5 UK fitting 6 (could probably pull 9 UK or same size but 5 fitting instead), 2020: 9.5 (with medium socks it fit snug). The two lasts I mentioned are super comfortable straight out of the box, and I can wear them all day without the slightest discomfort. Reply below with your sizing in any lasts you own/have experience with. I appreciate it doesnt work for everyone geographically, but most of the famous English brands are still manufactured in the Northampton region. While, as you mention, most people dont see the difference between a 400 Goodyear welted shoe and a 4,000 bespoke shoe. Great article I wonder what you think of the dilemma I currently find myself in?.. I suspect 8UK would have been better, * **Enzo Bonafe 74945** 8UK perfect fit, snug around the heel and ball with a comfortable instep but still toe room, * **Enzo Bonafe 804** 7.5UK fits a bit better than 8UK, 8UK has a lot of heel slip in shell boots, * **Enzo Bonafe 062** 8UK fits similarly to 804 7.5UK. Carmina Simpson Oxford - 10 UK. Brannock Size: 10D/E with flat feet and extra wide around instep. Slightly low arches. ??? Thanks for the response. The Shell Cordovan, non-Alden Shoe and Boot Thread, Find reviews, recommendations, tips about and appreciation of fine cutlery here. The alternative was to shut out the market of men with wider feet. Very comfortable, heel is a smidge roomy, but overall an extremely comfortable last. But the insoles are very comfortable and have molded to my feet nicely. **Renav has inconsistent sizing it turns out. At C&Js benchgrade level, you can choose from black or chestnut calf (both with a leather sole), or brown suede with a rubber sole and youre limited to their 348 last. It may not display this or other websites correctly. To me, the leather feels similar to Carmina, though possibly even stiffer and more inflexible. Im trying to decide between the following two options: 1) Myrqvist Molle Loafers @ 151 per pair, 2) Trickers Elton Loafers @ 225 per pair (on sale). Maybe something in the weight of the shoes or its balance, but nothing apparent in construction. * **Gaziano Girling TG73** 8.5EUK comfortable but slight pinching at pinky toe, * **Grant Stone Leo** 8.5D super comfortable boot last, bit roomy, * **Joe Works JOE-0** 8UK instep too low - v gap in oxford laces, * **Loake Capital** 8UK snug with room at the toe, perfect fit, * **Lof and Tung S** 8UK great fit though instep is perhaps a bit high, * **Mattina N** 42EU Great fit with little to no heel slip, instep is like Loake Capital/Carmina Rain, * **Mattina C** 42EU Great fit with little to no heel slip, instep is like Loake Capital/Carmina Rain. I have room for my toes, but my foot isnt rattling around. Not only the uppers are nicer, but the full calf liners are a joy when you put them on and you walk even a bit. So much so, that one of the heels fell off during normal use. Doc Martens or Loake 1880 for Chelsea boots ? Here there the number of brands increases, particularly with start-ups. 210 last 9.5D: Bad fit. Update: had to take the leather insert out, just couldn't deal with how shallow the toe box is. meister Stylish Dinosaur Joined Feb 10, 2007 Messages 10,772 Reaction score 2,515 Dec 28, 2011 #9 I dont think theyre very different, but no I cant compare directly, as I dont own GC RTW. AE is a company around 100 years old and about thrice Aldens turnover, I always heard that only second to it in quality in the US, so that seemed odd. Rock Your Socks- show your sock, shoe & pant combos, *DROP 3/1* NWT $240 Ralph Lauren Purple Label Italian Made Navy Linen & Mulberry Silk Twill Neck Tie, * DROP 3/1 * NWT $225 Ralph Lauren Purple Label Italian Made Square Knit Solid Black Silk Neck Tie, R.M.Williams Comfort Craftsman Tobacco Suede UK 8.5 H. OGIO Golf Travel Bags The Royal Experience! Im a scrooge but think this is crucial to include in your mental budget. . But they belong in a different category, a quality level down., France, Germany, Italy: Loding, Orbans, Velasca, Shoepassion. I happily pay the very reasonable cost for a brand providing a certain width, a good service, retaining the lasts that suits me and other added values. I still end up with shoes that are markedly higher quality than the vast majority of whats sold, and the more reasonable prices allow me to accumulate a broader range of options. I can fully close the lacing most of the way up for an ideal look. 8.5D may have worked with thinner socks. Own 2 pairs and ordering a 3rd in this last. And with the double-insoles system in place, comfort is guaranteed with Meermins. They look good, a bit more fashionable than the others, but I also cant say Ive worn them enough to really get a sense of their quality. (I think I prefer the darker colour of the first). Bespoke obviously solves this but I dont care enough about the other elements you get and pay for with bespoke, or perhaps I just think 2k+ is too much and I suspect (hope?) Measured as 9.5 D. Will get more detailed measurements after the pandemic, along with a military last fitting. Some of the shoes on sale are factory seconds and its not something they outrightly advertise. Regarding the soles, the comment was of course a generalisation, and of course British makers use European soles in most cases, that doesnt change anything. Its a shame that fees make the value proposition go down fellow shoe enthusiasts abroad. This means that in our Goodyear welted shoes you are likely to go down 0,5 size compared to what you wear in Meermin Hiro. I just had the opportunity to try on some Carminas in store. Velasca uses a Blake/Rapid construction, so not Goodyear welted - but remember Blake/Rapid is more similar to Goodyear than it is to normal Blake. Carmina shoes are better than Meermin shoes when all things are considered. Did not break in enough to be able to wear even thin socks. I could fully close the lacing with the shoes still being a little loose with 9E. I'd probably be good with a 10E. Other than that, interesting article. You found 1 size in that last worked for you though? Overall fairly similar to TLB but a little sleeker overall, with tighter cut soles, more dense stitching, and (in my opinion) sleeker lasts. Loake 024 last (F-Fit): 7UK a bit tight around toes and heel. Would you have any insight into the quality of the GC ready to wear versus C&J handgrade please? They can be found on many websites for less than 300( e.g. Merrell Vapor Glove: 10D, no issues since there's barely any structure. When I do, Im a repeat customer (for instance, narrow EG 202 Chelseas) but my narrow feet preclude me from buying most brands shoes. I had the hope it would get softer and stretch a bit. It is tough to find quality hand-welted shoes for the price that Meermin shoes are being sold for. I think either would be fine. So lets see. The honesty of the first 4 paragraphs bring home why , having read this blog for 8 years, at times it feels less relevant to myself . Since its a smaller area than bespoke tailoring, its even more sensitive for these things. in fact my favourite leather is meermin museum calf, while meermin llama I dont really like, and I wouldnt touch their black box calf with a 10 pole. Related/unrelated, I find myself in flux style wise right now in the early stages of coming out of Covid. This is what separates them from the suit debate. Perhaps I need to re-examine what value I place on shoes. In fact at some point I wondered whether you were being protectionist of Northampton makers by apparently shunning AE, but then I could not see anywhere else that could be like you. Vans Old Skool/Era: 11D, solid out of the box. As mentioned in the top comment, we were focusing on shoes under 300. Not sure the best place for this, and realise there is no correct answer but was wondering your view on the proportional cost of shoes to suits, shirts etc? Here's some of my sizing for reference: Meermin RON 11.5 medium Tricker's Bourton 10.5 Tricker's Stow 11 Carmina Xim UNLINED 10.5 Carmina Simpson 11.5 Alden Grant 11.5 Have been on a Brannock only once. I am a little biased here because I have had these for longer than any other pair on this list, so they are more broken in, and the last happens to fit my foot better than any but the C&J 348 too. This article, then, is an analysis of the market for mens dress shoes below the Crocketts Handgrade level - all informed by Jesper. There's a tiny bit more room at the ball too now. Theyre the only pair from this collection that I got out of the box and went wow. Some RTW still offer width varieties but I believe the manufacturers found that those with narrow feet didnt suffer if the shoes were too wide. You can use these comfortable shoes to show up appropriately for most events, in the most positive ways possible. Well Id imagine the aim is to make more money, given that some will know the Cleverley name and want to buy into it. It is something that is destroying the reputation not only for these brands but for bespoke shoes in general. You know what youre getting. With shoes, up to a certain quite high price point, you get what you pay for and further this is possible to judge objectively. I made the same experience with Bobbies shoes which ended in an oddyssey of sending shoes back and forth. With Meermins, you get a refined-classy style that is set to rule the modern scene. all have factory shops if you are looking for a classic style but at a price closer to a discounted Loake. 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